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Hallo!
Ich betreibe eine DS923+ mit vier Seagates
Dann die Meldung:
"Die Anzahl fehlerhafter Sektoren auf Laufwerk 2 von DS923+ hat zugenommen. Wir empfehlen eine Datenbereinigung, um die Datenkonsistenz sicherzustellen."

Gemacht, woraufhin neben der sata1 auch die sata2 anfing, sich zu beschweren.
NOCH eine Datenbereinigung angeworfen und sata2 hatte noch mehr schlechte Sektoren.

Leider stellt Synology die SMART-Werte ja nicht mehr direkt zur Verfügung.

Also das Script stats_hdd.sh aus dem Forum ausprobiert (Ergebnis in hdread.txt) und dann noch einmal mit dem "Seagate-Zauber" (smartctl -ia -v 1,raw48:54 -v 7,raw48:54 -v 195,raw48:54 /dev/sata1..4) die Platten einzeln angeschaut. (Siehe sata1-4.txt)

Das sieht aus meiner Sicht eher besorgniserregend aus...

Könnte jemand mit mehr Erfahrung in SMART einmal seinen Senf dazu geben?
Der Verkäufer bietet noch Garantie.

Grüße aus dem fast höchsten Norden!
 

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Bitte als Code posten, nicht als Anlagen.
 
Ups. Gern!

Scriptausgabe (gekürzt):
Code: 
Drive /dev/sata1:

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family:     Seagate Enterprise Capacity 3.5 HDD v7 SED
Device Model:     ST12000NM0127
Serial Number:    ZJV3YFGG
LU WWN Device Id: 5 000c50 0b4e50347
Firmware Version: G005

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

SMART Error Log Version: 1


 ID  | Attribute                         | (1) | (2) | (3) | (4)
=====|===================================|=====|=====|=====|===================
 1   | Raw_Read_Error_Rate               | 083 | 059 | 044 | 0/198210355 <!
 3   | Spin_Up_Time                      | 090 | 090 | 000 | 0 <!
 4   | Start_Stop_Count                  | 100 | 100 | 020 | 23   
 5   | Reallocated_Sector_Ct             | 100 | 100 | 010 | 1240 <!
 7   | Seek_Error_Rate                   | 084 | 060 | 045 | 0/252191123 <!
 9   | Power_On_Hours                    | 085 | 085 | 000 | 13173   
 10  | Spin_Retry_Count                  | 100 | 100 | 097 | 0 <!
 12  | Power_Cycle_Count                 | 100 | 100 | 020 | 23   
 184 | End-to-End_Error                  | 100 | 100 | 099 | 0   
 187 | Reported_Uncorrect                | 067 | 067 | 000 | 33   
 188 | Command_Timeout                   | 100 | 100 | 000 | 0   
 190 | Airflow_Temperature_Cel           | 071 | 063 | 040 | 29   
 192 | Power-Off_Retract_Count           | 100 | 100 | 000 | 387   
 193 | Load_Cycle_Count                  | 100 | 100 | 000 | 564   
 194 | Temperature_Celsius               | 029 | 040 | 000 | 29   
 195 | Hardware_ECC_Recovered            | 009 | 005 | 000 | 0/198210355   
 197 | Current_Pending_Sector            | 100 | 100 | 000 | 0   
 198 | Offline_Uncorrectable             | 100 | 100 | 000 | 0   
 199 | UDMA_CRC_Error_Count              | 200 | 200 | 000 | 0   
 200 | Multi_Zone_Error_Rate             | 100 | 100 | 001 | 0 <!
 240 | Head_Flying_Hours                 | 100 | 253 | 000 | 13078   
 241 | Total_LBAs_Written                | 100 | 253 | 000 | 61686417403   
 242 | Total_LBAs_Read                   | 100 | 253 | 000 | 219563534659   

 (1) Value, (2) Worst, (3) Threshold, (4) Raw, <! Pre-fail value
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Drive /dev/sata2:

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family:     Seagate Enterprise Capacity 3.5 HDD v7 SED
Device Model:     ST12000NM0127
Serial Number:    ZJV1J5K2
LU WWN Device Id: 5 000c50 0b1c8edf1
Firmware Version: G005


 ID  | Attribute                         | (1) | (2) | (3) | (4)
=====|===================================|=====|=====|=====|===================
 1   | Raw_Read_Error_Rate               | 057 | 052 | 044 | 0/172824601 <!
 3   | Spin_Up_Time                      | 089 | 089 | 000 | 0 <!
 4   | Start_Stop_Count                  | 100 | 100 | 020 | 23   
 5   | Reallocated_Sector_Ct             | 098 | 098 | 010 | 8168 <!
 7   | Seek_Error_Rate                   | 078 | 060 | 045 | 0/67179887 <!
 9   | Power_On_Hours                    | 085 | 085 | 000 | 13173   
 10  | Spin_Retry_Count                  | 100 | 100 | 097 | 0 <!
 12  | Power_Cycle_Count                 | 100 | 100 | 020 | 23   
 184 | End-to-End_Error                  | 100 | 100 | 099 | 0   
 187 | Reported_Uncorrect                | 018 | 018 | 000 | 82   
 188 | Command_Timeout                   | 100 | 100 | 000 | 0   
 190 | Airflow_Temperature_Cel           | 070 | 061 | 040 | 30   
 192 | Power-Off_Retract_Count           | 100 | 100 | 000 | 408   
 193 | Load_Cycle_Count                  | 100 | 100 | 000 | 562   
 194 | Temperature_Celsius               | 030 | 040 | 000 | 30   
 195 | Hardware_ECC_Recovered            | 009 | 006 | 000 | 0/172824601   
 197 | Current_Pending_Sector            | 100 | 100 | 000 | 0   
 198 | Offline_Uncorrectable             | 100 | 100 | 000 | 0   
 199 | UDMA_CRC_Error_Count              | 200 | 200 | 000 | 0   
 200 | Multi_Zone_Error_Rate             | 100 | 100 | 001 | 0 <!
 240 | Head_Flying_Hours                 | 100 | 253 | 000 | 13079   
 241 | Total_LBAs_Written                | 100 | 253 | 000 | 60768817163   
 242 | Total_LBAs_Read                   | 100 | 253 | 000 | 219412578624   

 (1) Value, (2) Worst, (3) Threshold, (4) Raw, <! Pre-fail value
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Drive /dev/sata3:

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family:     Seagate Enterprise Capacity 3.5 HDD v7 SED
Device Model:     ST12000NM0127
Serial Number:    ZJV1RD7F
LU WWN Device Id: 5 000c50 0b35f7fa3
Firmware Version: G005

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

SMART Error Log Version: 1
No Errors Logged

 ID  | Attribute                         | (1) | (2) | (3) | (4)
=====|===================================|=====|=====|=====|===================
 1   | Raw_Read_Error_Rate               | 084 | 064 | 044 | 0/230051372 <!
 3   | Spin_Up_Time                      | 090 | 090 | 000 | 0 <!
 4   | Start_Stop_Count                  | 100 | 100 | 020 | 23   
 5   | Reallocated_Sector_Ct             | 100 | 100 | 010 | 0 <!
 7   | Seek_Error_Rate                   | 083 | 060 | 045 | 0/194100605 <!
 9   | Power_On_Hours                    | 085 | 085 | 000 | 13173   
 10  | Spin_Retry_Count                  | 100 | 100 | 097 | 0 <!
 12  | Power_Cycle_Count                 | 100 | 100 | 020 | 23   
 184 | End-to-End_Error                  | 100 | 100 | 099 | 0   
 187 | Reported_Uncorrect                | 100 | 100 | 000 | 0   
 188 | Command_Timeout                   | 100 | 100 | 000 | 0   
 190 | Airflow_Temperature_Cel           | 069 | 060 | 040 | 31   
 192 | Power-Off_Retract_Count           | 100 | 100 | 000 | 399   
 193 | Load_Cycle_Count                  | 100 | 100 | 000 | 562   
 194 | Temperature_Celsius               | 031 | 040 | 000 | 31   
 195 | Hardware_ECC_Recovered            | 009 | 007 | 000 | 0/230051372   
 197 | Current_Pending_Sector            | 100 | 100 | 000 | 0   
 198 | Offline_Uncorrectable             | 100 | 100 | 000 | 0   
 199 | UDMA_CRC_Error_Count              | 200 | 200 | 000 | 0   
 200 | Multi_Zone_Error_Rate             | 100 | 100 | 001 | 0 <!
 240 | Head_Flying_Hours                 | 100 | 253 | 000 | 13082   
 241 | Total_LBAs_Written                | 100 | 253 | 000 | 61823448867   
 242 | Total_LBAs_Read                   | 100 | 253 | 000 | 219403231060   

 (1) Value, (2) Worst, (3) Threshold, (4) Raw, <! Pre-fail value
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Drive /dev/sata4:

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family:     Seagate Enterprise Capacity 3.5 HDD v7 SED
Device Model:     ST12000NM0127
Serial Number:    ZJV3Z3YN
LU WWN Device Id: 5 000c50 0b4ef2dba
Firmware Version: G005


=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
Please note the following marginal Attributes:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME                                                   FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate                                              0x000f   075   044   044    Pre-fail  Always   In_the_past 0/33637272

SMART Error Log Version: 1


 ID  | Attribute                         | (1) | (2) | (3) | (4)
=====|===================================|=====|=====|=====|===================
 1   | Raw_Read_Error_Rate               | 075 | 044 | 044 | 0/33637272 <!
 3   | Spin_Up_Time                      | 090 | 090 | 000 | 0 <!
 4   | Start_Stop_Count                  | 100 | 100 | 020 | 23   
 5   | Reallocated_Sector_Ct             | 079 | 079 | 010 | 17616 <!
 7   | Seek_Error_Rate                   | 090 | 060 | 045 | 0/946940286 <!
 9   | Power_On_Hours                    | 085 | 085 | 000 | 13173   
 10  | Spin_Retry_Count                  | 100 | 100 | 097 | 0 <!
 12  | Power_Cycle_Count                 | 100 | 100 | 020 | 23   
 184 | End-to-End_Error                  | 100 | 100 | 099 | 0   
 187 | Reported_Uncorrect                | 001 | 001 | 000 | 1083   
 188 | Command_Timeout                   | 100 | 100 | 000 | 0   
 190 | Airflow_Temperature_Cel           | 069 | 060 | 040 | 31   
 192 | Power-Off_Retract_Count           | 100 | 100 | 000 | 367   
 193 | Load_Cycle_Count                  | 100 | 100 | 000 | 562   
 194 | Temperature_Celsius               | 031 | 040 | 000 | 31   
 195 | Hardware_ECC_Recovered            | 009 | 007 | 000 | 0/33637272   
 197 | Current_Pending_Sector            | 100 | 100 | 000 | 0   
 198 | Offline_Uncorrectable             | 100 | 100 | 000 | 0   
 199 | UDMA_CRC_Error_Count              | 200 | 200 | 000 | 0   
 200 | Multi_Zone_Error_Rate             | 100 | 100 | 001 | 0 <!
 240 | Head_Flying_Hours                 | 100 | 253 | 000 | 13082   
 241 | Total_LBAs_Written                | 100 | 253 | 000 | 61544636371   
 242 | Total_LBAs_Read                   | 100 | 253 | 000 | 219463635898   

 (1) Value, (2) Worst, (3) Threshold, (4) Raw, <! Pre-fail value
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
Sata1/2/4 sind tot und generell würde ich keine gebrauchten HDDs kaufen.
 
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Bis auf die dritte sehen die alle nicht mehr so gesund aus.. Und das nach weniger als 2 Jahren.
Wenn du sie vor 1.5 Jahren gekauft hast waren sie ja auch neu.
 
Backup???
 
AH! Nachtigall mit Nagelstiefeln!

Code: 
=== Checking device: /dev/sata1 ===
Model Family:   Seagate Enterprise Capacity 3.5 HDD v7 SED
Device Model:   ST12000NM0127
Serial Number:  ZJV3YFGG

SMART:          13175
FARM:           37815
HEAD:           PASS (Max: 29459346052 hrs, Min: 999999999 hrs)
RESULT:         FAIL

=== Checking device: /dev/sata2 ===
Model Family:   Seagate Enterprise Capacity 3.5 HDD v7 SED
Device Model:   ST12000NM0127
Serial Number:  ZJV1J5K2

SMART:          13175
FARM:           45945
HEAD:           FAIL (Head 13: 24946463091 hrs > Total: 13174 hrs)
RESULT:         FAIL

=== Checking device: /dev/sata3 ===
Model Family:   Seagate Enterprise Capacity 3.5 HDD v7 SED
Device Model:   ST12000NM0127
Serial Number:  ZJV1RD7F

SMART:          13175
FARM:           42383
HEAD:           FAIL (Head 13: 36687270779 hrs > Total: 13174 hrs)
RESULT:         FAIL

=== Checking device: /dev/sata4 ===
Model Family:   Seagate Enterprise Capacity 3.5 HDD v7 SED
Device Model:   ST12000NM0127
Serial Number:  ZJV3Z3YN

SMART:          13175
FARM:           39342
HEAD:           FAIL (Head 13: 23615471808 hrs > Total: 13174 hrs)
RESULT:         FAIL

Der Verkäufer verweist auf einem Popup (die im Schriftverkehr angegebene Website existiert nicht (mehr)) auf:
Bei gebundelten Systemen werden OEM-Festplatten oder auch Factory Recertified verbaut, die ein älteres Herstellungsjahr haben können, aber technisch fehlerfrei sind.
Zum Vergrößern anklicken....


Spannenderweise läuft die Seriennummerprüfung bei Seagate auch in's Leere.

Länger gelaufen als bei mir sind sie auf alle Fälle. Seagate hätte als factory das Ganze sauberer gemacht - und OEM gut und schön, aber die müssten neu sein, falls nichts anderes angegeben. Oder sehe ich das falsch?
 
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Poste bitte mal den output: smartctl -l farm /dev/sata1
 
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ahh, sorry. Du musst das Paket SynoCli Disk Tools installieren für SmartMonTools 7.5:
Code: 
ChatGPT:
1️⃣ Paketquelle hinzufügen

DSM → Paket-Zentrum → Einstellungen → Paketquellen

Hinzufügen:

Name: SynoCommunity

Ort:

https://packages.synocommunity.com


👉 OK, schließen.

2️⃣ Paket suchen & installieren

Paket-Zentrum → Alle Pakete → Suche nach:

SynoCli Disk Tools

Installieren.
Keine Sonderoptionen nötig. Kein Reboot.

Und dann folgenden Befehl: /usr/local/bin/smartctl -l farm /dev/sata1

Edit: Hier siehst du dann die tatsächlichen Betriebsstunden:
Code: 
root@DS920plus:~# /usr/local/bin/smartctl -l farm /dev/sata5
smartctl 7.5 2025-04-30 r5714 [x86_64-linux-4.4.302+] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-25, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

Seagate Field Access Reliability Metrics log (FARM) (GP Log 0xa6)
        FARM Log Page 0: Log Header
                FARM Log Version: 4.5
                Pages Supported: 6
                Log Size: 98304
                Page Size: 16384
                Heads Supported: 24
                Number of Copies: 0
                Reason for Frame Capture: 0
        FARM Log Page 1: Drive Information
                Serial Number: ZJV2RDJ3
                World Wide Name: 0x5000c500b35e16df
                Device Interface: SATA
                Device Capacity in Sectors: 23437770752
                Physical Sector Size: 4096
                Logical Sector Size: 512
                Device Buffer Size: 268435456
                Number of Heads: 16
                Device Form Factor: 3.5 inches
                Rotation Rate: 7200 rpm
                Firmware Rev: G005
                ATA Security State (ID Word 128): 0x01621
                ATA Features Supported (ID Word 78): 0x0168cc
                ATA Features Enabled (ID Word 79): 0x0000000000000044
                Power on Hours: 33450
                Spindle Power on Hours: 387997393404
                Head Flight Hours: 387997393359
                Head Load Events: 1911
                Power Cycle Count: 1376
                Hardware Reset Count: 1451
                Spin-up Time: 10 ms
                Time to ready of the last power cycle: 0 ms
                Time drive is held in staggered spin: 0 ms
                Model Number:
                Drive Recording Type: UNKNOWN
                Max Number of Available Sectors for Reassignment: 0
                Assembly Date (YYWW):
                Depopulation Head Mask: 0

Power on Hours: 33450
 
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Ich kürze mal wieder Kram...
Code: 
Seagate Field Access Reliability Metrics log (FARM) (GP Log 0xa6)

        FARM Log Page 1: Drive Information
                Serial Number: ZJV3YFGG
                World Wide Name: 0x5000c500b4e50347

                ATA Security State (ID Word 128): 0x01621
                ATA Features Supported (ID Word 78): 0x0168cc
                ATA Features Enabled (ID Word 79): 0x0000000000000044
                Power on Hours: 37815
                Spindle Power on Hours: 577863299684
                Head Flight Hours: 577863299684
                Head Load Events: 564
                Power Cycle Count: 39
                Hardware Reset Count: 0
                Spin-up Time: 10 ms
                Time to ready of the last power cycle: 0 ms
                Time drive is held in staggered spin: 0 ms
                Model Number:
                Drive Recording Type: UNKNOWN
                Max Number of Available Sectors for Reassignment: 0
                Assembly Date (YYWW):
                Depopulation Head Mask: 0
        FARM Log Page 2: Workload Statistics
                Total Number of Read Commands: 4158444558
                Total Number of Write Commands: 4589012998
                Total Number of Random Read Commands: 1476600470
                Total Number of Random Write Commands: 4402908304
                Total Number Of Other Commands: 132204041
                Logical Sectors Written: 1963730060090
                Logical Sectors Read: 2687919991845
                Number of dither events during current power cycle: 0
                Number of times dither was held off during random workloads: 0
                Number of times dither was held off during sequential workloads: 0
                Number of Read commands from 0-3.125% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 2364209
                Number of Read commands from 3.125-25% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 5176192
                Number of Read commands from 25-75% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 473728
                Number of Read commands from 75-100% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 5270473
                Number of Write commands from 0-3.125% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 19688700
                Number of Write commands from 3.125-25% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
                Number of Write commands from 25-75% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
                Number of Write commands from 75-100% of LBA space for last 3 SMART Summary Frames: 0
        FARM Log Page 3: Error Statistics
                Unrecoverable Read Errors: 370
                Unrecoverable Write Errors: 0
                Number of Reallocated Sectors: 1240
                Number of Read Recovery Attempts: 32
                Number of Mechanical Start Failures: 0
                Number of Reallocated Candidate Sectors: 0
                Number of ASR Events: 0
                Number of Interface CRC Errors: 0
                Spin Retry Count: 0
                Spin Retry Count Normalized: 100
                Spin Retry Count Worst: 100
                Number of IOEDC Errors (Raw): 0
                CTO Count Total: 0
                CTO Count Over 5s: 0
                CTO Count Over 7.5s: 0
                Total Flash LED (Assert) Events: 0
                Index of the last Flash LED: 0

                Uncorrectable errors: 33

        FARM Log Page 4: Environment Statistics
                Current Temperature (Celsius): 29
                Highest Temperature: 37
                Lowest Temperature: 20
                Average Short Term Temperature: 31
                Average Long Term Temperature: 28
                Highest Average Short Term Temperature: 34
                Lowest Average Short Term Temperature: 24
                Highest Average Long Term Temperature: 31
                Lowest Average Long Term Temperature: 25
                Time In Over Temperature (minutes): 0
                Time In Under Temperature (minutes): 0
                Specified Max Operating Temperature: 60
                Specified Min Operating Temperature: 5
                Current Relative Humidity: 118
                Current Motor Power: 3246
                Current 12 volts: 0.000
                Minimum 12 volts: 0.000
                Maximum 12 volts: 0.000
                Current 5 volts: 0.000
                Minimum 5 volts: 0.000
                Maximum 5 volts: 0.000
                12V Power Average: 0.000
                12V Power Minimum: 0.000
                12V Power Maximum: 0.000
                5V Power Average: 0.000
                5V Power Minimum: 0.000
                5V Power Maximum: 0.000
        FARM Log Page 5: Reliability Statistics
                Error Rate (SMART Attribute 1 Raw): 0x000000000c408d63
                Error Rate (SMART Attribute 1 Normalized): 83
                Error Rate (SMART Attribute 1 Worst): 59
                Seek Error Rate (SMART Attr 7 Raw): 0x000000000f0acb5d
                Seek Error Rate (SMART Attr 7 Normalized): 84
                Seek Error Rate (SMART Attr 7 Worst): 60
                High Priority Unload Events: 387

                Write Power On (sec) by Head 0: 20488477982737
                Write Power On (sec) by Head 1: 9992820496260
                Write Power On (sec) by Head 2: 7082602567787
                Write Power On (sec) by Head 3: 6163061089104
                Write Power On (sec) by Head 4: 4994956150946
                Write Power On (sec) by Head 5: 8746620935077
                Write Power On (sec) by Head 6: 61096874785853
                Write Power On (sec) by Head 7: 62616144885448
                Write Power On (sec) by Head 8: 36807841126196
                Write Power On (sec) by Head 9: 38579361333737
                Write Power On (sec) by Head 10: 16392802003419
                Write Power On (sec) by Head 11: 36245908547606
                Write Power On (sec) by Head 12: 28286110225556
                Write Power On (sec) by Head 13: 106053648479332
                Write Power On (sec) by Head 14: 80662119851729
                Write Power On (sec) by Head 15: 59332129529949
                MR Head Resistance from Head 0: 544
                MR Head Resistance from Head 1: 508
                MR Head Resistance from Head 2: 455
                MR Head Resistance from Head 3: 405
                MR Head Resistance from Head 4: 454
                MR Head Resistance from Head 5: 444
                MR Head Resistance from Head 6: 420
                MR Head Resistance from Head 7: 404
                MR Head Resistance from Head 8: 425
                MR Head Resistance from Head 9: 476
                MR Head Resistance from Head 10: 397
                MR Head Resistance from Head 11: 443
                MR Head Resistance from Head 12: 430
                MR Head Resistance from Head 13: 530
                MR Head Resistance from Head 14: 523
                MR Head Resistance from Head 15: 483

                Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 0: 4
                Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 1: 0
                Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 2: 0
                Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 3: 0
                Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 4: 0
                Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 5: 0
                Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 6: 0
                Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 7: 0
                Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 8: 17
                Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 9: 0
                Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 10: 0
                Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 11: 0
                Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 12: 0
                Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 13: 101
                Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 14: 18
                Number of Reallocated Sectors by Head 15: 15
 
Sorry, ich hatte Post 9 übersehen, da hattest du es ja schon gepostet:
SMART: 13175
FARM: 45945
Deine SMART Werte wurden gelöscht vor Verkauf! Dein HDDs haben bis zu 45.945 Betriebsstunden ca. 5,2 Jahre, bei dir sind sie 13.175 Stunden ca. 1,5 Jahre gelaufen.
 
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Naja, refurbed bedeutet, das es gebrauchte HDDs sind.
 
Wenn du noch Garantie hast, dann tauschen!
 

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